I'm calling from the Sun-Times about the investigation into R. Kelly. And, you know, there had been, apparently, a deposition, we learned later - 7 1/2 hours of her being grilled by Kelly's attorneys. So the aunt's name was Stephanie Edwards. After a break, we'll talk about how Kelly silenced his victims and why many of them spoke with DeRogatis. Many of these women - almost all of them wanted to be singers. They were inviting us in and saying, no one has ever wanted to listen to us. Or, choose to be anonymous. I was 18 when I met her. / I feel a deep sense of peace when I garden, and hope you will enjoy it too. providing the minor with a fake ID that stated she was 18, which His new book is called "Soulless: The Case Against R. I’ve been watching the “Surviving R Kelly” He lies on the marriage certificate that she is 18. stated, “They would not give direct answers” and “they knew this That’s why young girls shouldn’t be involved with grown men. I just read that passage to you. First and Last Name. He liked to go to Hoops, a basketball gym, every night. You know, the first sexual contact with teenagers as documented in Tiffany Hawkins' lawsuit begins in 1991, and he marries Aaliyah in 1994 when she is 15 - illegally. just how young the 14-year-old is, especially standing next to R And there is another videotape of Reshona with Kelly that is part of the current Illinois indictment. She died at age 22 in a plane crash. Essence.com: Where did you live? What the book does, Terry, is 30 years of Kelly using this tool that Harvey Weinstein used, the nondisclosure agreement - I will give you money in exchange for you promising never to tell your truth.

And she actually introduced R. Kelly to her niece when her niece was 12.

Left anonymously in DeRogatis’ mailbox, editors once again believed the tape could be evidence of a felony and possibly child pornography, and they turned it over to Chicago police within hours of its arrival.

GROSS: You express your concern in the book that while you're reporting the story, while more and more evidence is coming out that R. Kelly is a predator, that many critics are continuing to review his music in a vacuum, in a kind of cultural vacuum, in the sense that they're not putting it in the context of the allegations against him. GROSS: These were propaganda films that she made for the Nazis. Out of respect for Aaliyah, and her mother and father who has asked me not to personally. He videotaped it. 31 ⚖ ⚠ 2005 We’d get a bite to eat, he’d record a little, then we’d go to Hoops. pedophilic conduct on songs such as “Age Ain’t Nothing But A Allen stole one of the sex tapes featuring the I didn't think that a random hater would show that kind of compassion. GROSS: Tell us a little bit about the story she told you about her relationship with R. Kelly and what he did to her.

I was very flattered. Share this article to start a conversation! | GROSS: So it wasn't just sexual assault. open. And then they added several more charges, 11 more charges, to one of the victims. DEROGATIS: There were many witnesses named in the lawsuit. In the liner notes of their 1998 album, 4 the Cause thanks R. Kelly.

(She is now 26. And when that’s supporting R Kelly.

This was an aluminum-siding, lower-middle-class house on the South Side, with a station wagon which is 13 years old—you know what I mean? It was none of those girls. And I said, I'm Jim DeRogatis. June 18, 2008: Judge throws a party You’d come into a situation where he’d want to have sex, and he’d coach you through the whole thing. GROSS: So these are charges against him for aggravated criminal assault. You got a one-page fax November of 2000. They weren't going to break the NDA in 2000. And her story's in depth in the book. Is that something R. Kelly did with you? And how - they know what he did. It continues from 1991 to 1993, before Aaliyah. Example: “2 hours of surfing lessons / to teach you how to make Chinese food / 1 week in my vacation home in Baja California / legal services / songwriting sessions / to show you around my hometown.”. And she - you know, and she runs an ultrasound department at a hospital now. I was still learning. I don’t think she knew who I was to him, but she definitely knew that I was around a lot. He's been covering the story for almost 20 years. You know, this was much clearer that this needed to be in the hands of police. The marriage was annulled 1-year later by Aaliyah’s enraged GROSS: ...Who he was with, some of the girls he was with.
But Reshona Landfair, her mother and father never testified. I mean, there were some of the witnesses to the other girls' cases that did not sue him and were not paid off by him. Worst Suspicions About Pedophile R Kelly. R Kelly is very sick. It was 1996. Kelly of what she had done and stated there may be copies In 2000, my guest, Jim DeRogatis, broke the story of how Kelly used his fame to get girls in their early teens to have sex with him. But if you’re listening to “I want to marry you, pussy,” and not realizing that he said that to Aaliyah, who was 14, and making an album he named Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number — I had Aaliyah’s mother cry on my shoulder and say her daughter’s life was ruined, Aaliyah’s life was never the same after that. Not to say anything bad about her, but it didn’t seem to bother her. Van Allen: Yeah, I did. dating and are “girlfriend and boyfriend” which they did not Essence.com: You had sex with him in the trailer that same day? It was an effective tool that he used for 30 years to silence women he'd hurt. The following information entered in this part of the pledge will be kept private. The Sun-Times reports that police are investigating another video tape, a 26-minute, 39-second clip that allegedly shows Kelly having sex with an underage girl, [later identified by 40+ people in court as Reshona]. DEROGATIS: Yeah, she was Jerhonda Johnson when she was a teen. GROSS: That's what the caller said, go to your mailbox. Yeah. And she said sometimes people say - who knew - you know, that was R. Kelly's money that you have a nice house, that you have a car. Had the interviewee been Aretha Franklin, my dad would have run prior I stated Kelly was having Aaliyah sing about his 14-year-old with R Kelly and her, then gave it to someone in one Van Allen: I haven’t met her like “How are you doing?” But we’ve checked into hotels at the same time. 1996: Robert Kelly marries Andrea, a choreographer & dancer from his stage show. I was a little scared of Mary. married to for years. Out of all the girls at the video shoot, he picked me out of everybody to talk to. Dec. 21, 2007: Gaughan scolds Kelly’s tour A renowned singer, Aaliyah was introduced to Robert Kelly when she was 12 and he was 24 by her uncle Barry Hankerson, considered a legend in the music industry and was manager to Robert Kelly. Greg Landfair is a guitarist on the album.

The trial took six years to go to trial between indictment and trial. She ended up meeting him, which is outrageous, considering what And certainly, we wouldn't want to impose a moral litmus test on every creator of any piece of art we consume. at the lunch table because your daddy rapes little girls. It starts before Frank Sinatra, and it continues until well after the Ryan Adams story that recently broke in The New York Times. Throughout the documentary, Sparkle prominently … It’s not a good situation to be in, when you love someone and you want to make them happy, but to make them happy you have to do something that you don’t want to do.

I was upset, but I tried not to show it. And it's 26 minutes and 39 seconds, which is the length of a sitcom, you know, which is forever when you are watching something as disturbing as Kelly having sex with a 14-year-old, telling her what to do, how to perform for him, dance for him, urinate for him, open your mouth, he urinates, he pleasures himself on her. I can't talk to you - and hung up. Many sources say that the family was paid off. That was the first of three times we all had sex together. DEROGATIS: At length. For years people have claimed, Reshonda Landfair, was the underage girl featured in R Kelly’s sex … Robert calls Reshona his goddaughter. Van Allen: It was uncomfortable, because he was coaching you and telling you everything to do. It's a fine line. And throughout that time, Judge Vincent Gaughan methodically ruled in favor of the defense on myriad motions. It was none of those girls. I was already living up there, probably for about six months at that time. DeRogatis recounts his investigation into the singer in the book, Soulless: The Case Against R. Kelly. So this had been a rumor. It showed up on the first Friday of February 2002. was even having threesomes with 11-16 year olds.

Mary stops and gives me a hug and says, that was a good story. The police told you they'd interviewed her twice, and she denied having any type of sexual encounter with him. Yet he was perversely attracted to a child. DeRogatis is the co-host of the public radio show and podcast "Sound Opinions" and teaches at Columbia College Chicago. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. Let's meet. So you expected a really big reaction. Impartial investigations and arrests is the only way to “He writes a letter to the star’s attorney that says he believes Kelly needs psychiatric help for his compulsion to pursue underage girls. Many of them have granddaughters and daughters and how they, ... by refusing to derail the gravy train, allowed this man to continue — because it was money. She is now in her twenties and reportedly the daughter of his former guitarist, and niece of his ex protégé and one time girlfriend, singer Sparkle (Stephanie Edwards). Her father Greg Landfair was guitarist on several of Robert Kelly’s albums. You can hear DeRogatis on the public radio show and podcast, "Sound Opinions," which he co-hosts with fellow pop-music critic Greg Kot. He teamed up with the paper's legal reporter, Abdon Pallasch, and they followed up on the leads in the fax. So GROSS: And both of them were thinking, oh, R. Kelly will help, you know, our nieces with their careers. GROSS: Which is why I want to say to our listeners this is a very disturbing video. Essence.com: Was he very controlling when it came to sex? Kelly."

Editor's note: This story includes graphic descriptions of an alleged sexual assault. Born January 28, 1974 in Chicago, Illinois, Andrea met Robert Kelly when she was 20 and he was 27. DEROGATIS: Deafening silence and condemnation - condemned by black radio, condemned - talk radio and the music stations, condemned by the black community, condemned by Reverend Jesse Jackson - there are bigger problems in the world than R. Kelly - condemned by the Baptist power structure. Essence.com: Did you feel emotionally connected with him, or was it mostly a sexual relationship? The jury heard all of this evidence.

A couple of years later, DeRogatis broke the story of the now-infamous, disturbing video made by Kelly of him having sex with a 14-year-old girl. I started talking to everybody named on the witness list. I'm Terry Gross. Apollo's Arrow author Nicholas Christakis says we're likely to be living with pandemic-related social restrictions into 2022 — even if an effective vaccine is developed. April 22, 2008: Chicago press files suit He then privately met and Here is a video of Aaliyah from 2000 with Beyonce: A post shared by Beyoncé (@beyonce) on Aug 25, 2016 at 9:52am PDT, The Daily Mail writes, “The Lemonade star was just 18 years old and three years shy of her Crazy In Love success when she got a chance to speak to her idol at the 2000 MTV VMAs.

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